Fascinatingly - this came up around 4:30 pm in the instructor's meeting - I think there's a lot of data here... And Hunter explicitly mentioned it being an important topic for discussion in E2.
Here is the transcript from this morning about route:
[00:00:00.00]
SV: Cindy? how about your group (i think he says cindy - he's inviting one of the groups to present their consensus points)
[1] so we felt that we had come to concensus (here the mic'd person from my group - John, says 'don't finish that sentence - he's whispering within his group so i can't hear the vocal from across the room well) ... started the basis of our discussion is that all our energy of interest at in the form of potential energy elastic energy. at the end of act two it had been all transfered to kinetic ... and would have been dissipated for example into the surrroundings, however we feel that the point we do not have consensus was the exact route of the energy flow if there is ... .. but we're also not sure if that is important- that if as we're talking about the systems and considering it that whether or not we have to resolve that or not we .. whether it is a conversation worth having maybe because..into... but going there how i get there... (more stuff i can't make out) just center on...
[00:01:14.22] [2] does there have to be a route
[1] pardon?
[2] does there have to be a route? to be able to explain the energy, um does there have to be a route for a mechanism, i like i kind of got from their group that they correct me if i'm wrong but you guys you guys don't care about the route or you guys say there is a route your'e just not sure what it is
[1] well we were trying to go with what the members of our group had come to consensus on, and so because there are different opinions by saying that we could all agree on that
[2] so you, different people in your group think there are different routes but you all believe there is some a route that the energy takes
[1] the important thing is that all the eneregy is starting in the same place, you know, starting in the potential energy of the spring all being eventually transformed into kinetic energy... heat and sound - that we can agree on, what we don't necessairly agree on is is there a sole.. to the road
[3] and i really liked this statement, number 3, whether or not there was energy transfered to or from the road is irrelevant to the motion of the car
[2] right, but then i think you guys are saying there is there is some sort of a route but we don't know what it is, and these guys are saying that they don't care what the route is or even if there is a route.... (can't hear)
[00:02:47.05]
(at this point my group starts talking about how to pronounce 'route' and makes it hard to hear - but there is laughter in the room)
[00:03:00.20]
[1] wouldn't say it is so much that we don't care as whether or not it is necessary for most of the things we consider for our system... (someone interjects and says 'say it one more time?') i don't know if it's so much we don't care as whether or not it is relevant for the main things that i would be considering for my system i find... how fast the car go, how much energy needs to go into the beginning i mean you have to (look at the track???) at some point but most of the things i would be working with in my system, do i need to know all the ins and outs .. driving my car do i really need to think about my motor.. most of the things i do with my car
[5] even if we analyze the situation and get the same results as someone else who .. come up with the same result in the end...... (so hard to hear :( I hope leslie's audio is better to fill in the gaps)
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