This is the third (and probably last) video from the Lowering ball saga.
Right before this episode, Barbara was explaining her reasoning on how is the energy story while lowering the bowling ball at a constant speed. Her story focuses on the ball having lots of potential gravitational energy at the beginning, and as it is lowered it
loses potential energy, which is transformed into kinetic (since it is moving). Since they are working to define the ET they will represent for this scenario, some of the group members let her know that they can not lose energy (since it is conserved), nor can add extra kinetic energy (since it is constant speed). Since the discussion was not leading to a change, they decide to explore Barbara's idea while acting her ET.
**Warning: this video contains some noise in the audio.
It is 3+ minutes, but I think it has a lot of things to discuss about - meaning: it is worth it!**
[00:00:01.08] Trevor: So if I am potential and somebody is kinetic and we are moving in the air, so this is the beginning right?
[00:00:08.10] Barbara: Are you the ball or...
[00:00:09.03] Trevor: This (the rope) is the ball, and we are going to ignore everything else just focus on this. As the ball moves down more I have to do something (noise)
[00:00:21.20] Barbara: You changed to kinetic.
[00:00:22.69] Trevor: OK, now don't we have more kinetic energy than we started with?
[00:00:27.28] Krista: So we will be going faster like () it will be dropping faster?
[00:00:30.27] Trevor: We have to be going faster
[00:00:31.26] Barbara: Well you need, the guy is... No because the guy is putting resistance.
[00:00:38.16] Krista: So then we have to include the man our-
[00:00:40.24] Barbara: You use less pot- No, you use less potential and that became kinetic and, and it still can fall so-
[00:00:44.74] Trevor: But where do I (potential) go?
[00:00:49.00] Barbara: To kinetic, and you ended up staying there (the ball).
[00:00:51.26] Krista: But now we have () kinetic energy, because now we are both kinetic.
[00:00:55.11] Barbara: No, they were both potential and they both went to kinetic, that's (Trevor: No) what I am saying.
[00:00:59.20] Krista: So, I think we need more people.
[00:01:01.21] Barbara: Ok, so you have one kinetic, two potential and you all three are potential. No! You need more of your because the three of you- you need five, four.
[00:01:09.22] Krista: Hypothetically, go ahead. Walk us here.
[00:01:12.21] Barbara: Four potential, before it starts lowering. But one- When it's moving say one kinetic, three potential
Trevor: Ok
Krista: Ok, so what happens when
[00:01:23.04] Barbara: And then one other changes to kinetic. And it still moves past the waist.
[00:01:30.03] Trevor: Are we still moving faster 'cause we have two kinetics, and we started with one?
[00:01:35.05] Barbara: Maybe one can go to thermal.
[00:01:36.19] Trevor: So you think thermal's in the ball?
[00:01:40.28] Barbara: Thermal in the- I don't know where, not in the ball. () in the air...
[00:01:43.02] Krista: Where do I (kinetic) go?
[00:01:44.06] Barbara: Maybe call it in the air. Some kinetic in here (the ball), thermal and kinetic in here. Very simplified.
[00:01:56.22] Barbara: (Maggie is transferred and transform into thermal in the arm) No! We need potential in here (the ball).
**Different voices at the same time**
[00:02:06.29] Emma: So far in the examples we've seen, this is the problem I am having. When we have some kinetic energy and some thermal energy exiting to the air from an object that's usually a really small portion of the energy. And so I am really hesitant to say that of all the potential energy in the ball-
[00:02:25.17] Barbara: But it still moving when it is here, so you can have kinetic energy in the ball.
[00:02:29.10] Emma: But you can't have more than you started with because the ball speed is constant. So you can't gain kinetic energy, which means you have to be given energy.
[00:02:34.10] Barbara: Well, so what _you_ guys want to do.
[00:02:39.15] Trevor: I think we need to put these people who are changing from potential to something else have to go into the arm. Because if you ima-
[00:02:46.00] Barbara: Not from the ball.
[00:02:48.22] Trevor: From the ball (Other voices: from the ball).
[00:02:51.24] Krista: Maybe is not a direct path like that kinetic- No, potential. Go ahead.
[00:02:56.07] Barbara: Would you say it again, what you-?
[00:02:57.09] Trevor: So I am saying potential, from the ball, has to go into the arm and I think it's thermal, because the arm doesn't get going faster either.
Emma: Yeah.
[00:03:07.16] Barbara: So the potential from the ball goes into the arm.
[00:03:09.27] Krista: I mean through a chemical process is heating up the arm, not directly-
[00:03:14.28] Trevor: I think it's kind of directly
[00:03:16.26] Krista: I mean, but it is a direct reaction to what is happening (Barbara: the ATP). So it's causing the arm to heat up.
[00:03:24.11] Barbara: And whenever ATP (is hydrolyzed?), it changes the shape of the molecule. That's how the body gets work done.
[00:03:33.14] Barbara: But you know what, I want to see what- You guys play yours now.
I presented this video in the I-RISE Congress, and basically I could use this video for 10 different purposes. But what I (personally) am more interested of, is how they decide to use the ET as a tool of conciliation with Barbara. Instead of remain in a discussion trying to persuade her (we consider Barbara and the group initially were talking of different things), they decided to understand where is she coming from, and then question her in the blank spot that she has not addressed. I consider this group dynamic shows responsiveness and I can almost see how with the ET performance I can observe the accommodation and assimilation process of Barbara (magic to my eyes). And I simply love how Barbara, after all the questioning they made to her model, the modifications she decide to include, and the addition of new elements, at the end she stills recognize that ET as her own.
Some other issues that we discussed with this episode is how they see
thermal energy as the answer to conserve the energy in the system, but they have problems trying to explain where should it go, or why it happens.
ATP shows up again, if it weren't because of KD explanation, I wouldn't be aware of it (long time since I had bio classes). Now I realized that it
is a thing while trying to explain the scenarios during E1 and E2, but I could not say if this is a sign that the instruction of the PD should address or if they prefer to simply mention it with no further details (those two positions has been brought up in more than one occasion).
We also noticed the implication of representing kinetic energy as the people jogging. Rachel said she doesn't like it because it allows to mix the substance and level energy ontology. In my personal opinion, I liked it because I was able to see she sometimes tried to mixed both ontology, but she also notices it and go back to her regular pace.
This is the end of the Saga. I share the other links if you are interested in more details, or simply get more information of what happened before.
Conceptual understanding vs Equations (Afternoon ET 08-09 saga - part 1)
Forces vs Energy... (Afternoon ET 08-09 saga - part 2)
I-RISE Congress - Lowering at a constant speed