This episode comes from the very first Energy Theater of the week. It's the morning of the second day, and the energy story they're considering is Lane's hand pushing a cart (but ends before he lets go). This group decided on the objects very quickly (hand and car), then decided they'd all be potential energy changing to kinetic energy in the hand, transferring to kinetic energy in the car. After they're performed it once on their own, Lane come by.
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Vickie:
Yeah, so, what's
Theren:
Hold on, wait, what was that?
Vickie:
Maybe I'm just being too basic here. I'm just thinking what's making that car
move? It's my force.
(Kelly) Purple shirt:
Right.
Vickie:
And my force
Kelly:
Where are you getting the force?
Purple:
Some sort of energy.
Marcie:
You're expending calories-
Vickie:
Right.
Marcie:
- in order to do that.
Vickie:
Right. So I see where you're getting chemical energy, or food energy, I'm
getting that so how far back do you want us to go on this, like?
Tina:
Remember we're taking one little s-
Marcie:
Because I-
Tina:
Like this [click].
Vicki:
That's what I'm saying. It's just the finger, what we're, what energy's in the
finger.
Tina:
Finger.
Lane:
Well, yeah, I, I-
Vickie:
It goes into the car.
Lane:
I get you, but I think, well my answer to that is,
Tina:
We want one trip.
Vickie:
Yeah.
Lane:
is in some sense. I'm sort of giving you two answers to that.
Vickie:
Yeah.
Lane:
A two-part answer.
Vickie:
Okay.
Lane:
One is, that when you're starting, you've decided the hand isn't moving.
Vickie:
Right.
Lane:
Yet. So it can't be kinetic.
Vickie:
Right.
Lane:
So it's gotta be that, that energy has to be something, right?
Vickie:
Something, okay.
Lane:
You have to get, you have to sort of name and you have to decide on a name.
And, it also seems like, um, you, if you, if you call it potential, and it does
seem to be [inaudible]
Vicke:
Yeah
Lane:
Right, it seems like there's a lot of, a lot of different things that that
could be. A lot of different ways that it could store energy.
Vickie:
So it could be chemical, right? Cause you need the food to make chemical-
Heather:
Yeah.
Vickie:
Parts work, and the chemical part of your body is what's making that finger
move. Or is there a piece in there I'm not getting?
Sabina:
I think there might be another piece in there.
Others:
Yeah. [inaudible]
Sabina:
I'm not sure. I think there's definitely chemical involved, but I don't know
what happens from there. I think I'm missing. I don't get the stored energy
part. The stored energy in your...
Heather:
If we think of it at the chemical level-
???:
Yeah.
Heather:
What if we think of it on a chemical level, like on a molecular level. If
you're thinking, I mean, I know calories aren't molecular, and all of that. But
if you're thinking it takes calories to make the muscle, well not really, it
takes calories, to, to, you have to use calories in order to move the muscle.
???:
Mm-hmm
Heather:
So in transferring that caloric energy, for a lack of a better term, cheese
energy, granola energy [laughter].
Theren:
Yes.
Heather:
Whatever you want to call it.
Theren:
Yes. Nice, okay.
Heather:
Transferring it from one, that one place into the car, that's the transfer. But
it's still, does the transfer, this is the question I was asking this morning,
is it a parallel? Are transfer and transformation two different processes that
happen in tandem?Because transfer means from one object to another.
Transformation means change but does it always have to change? Because this is
still kinetic to kinetic?
Vickie:
But doesn't transfer mean from one object to the next, but the energy stays the
same?
Heather:
No, the energy staying the same would be a lack of transformation.
Vickie:
Right, so it would be a transfer.
???:
Transfer.
Heather:
That's what I'm saying. So it would be a transfer. But the transformation, so the, they're both going into
objects. It's just one transforms and one transfers. [Because if you're
transferring energy, it's gotta go somewhere, it's gotta go into something. So
it's just, but the energy's staying the same. But if you're transforming, the
energy's gotta go somewhere. But it's changing energies.
Vickie:
Right.
Heather:
Right?
I presented this at the Congress, and here were some of the observations people had:
- Heather asks "is it a parallel", meaning, can transfer and transformation happen at the same time? Energy Theater allows such a move, but standards don't allow it.
- In this episode, the participants do seem to agree that their task is to decide what the forms will be.
- We wondered why Lane decided to enter the conversation, and decided it was Vicki's question, directed at him, that invited him in.
I'll put my analysis of this episode in the post of my talk.
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